Or in this case, what did he didn’t do?
My twitter feed this morning (that was approximately 4-5 hours after the episode 4.02 was aired) was flooded with anger tweets, on the “return of Colonel Broyles”.
While I alluded in my previous post that it is possible that David Robert Jones comes back from grave in this Peter-less universe, I am certainly NOT suprised of AltBroyles’ existence.
If you are one of those who are not happy seeing burned and maimed Broyles come back to life, pause for awhile… calm down. Relax.
Let’s go back to the episode Entrada, where AltBroyles was transported to our universe dead.
In Entrada, Peter existed. Opening scene is Peter waking up to a phone call from someone who claims that Olivia is on the other side. Fauxlivia’s cover was blown and she reported this to the alt-universe and needed a quick extraction of her back to the B-universe.
Now, Peter does not exist. Same analogy as my previous post of Peter not slicing D.R. Jones in a half, Fauxlivia’s cover was not blown. Walter said that he was fooled by Fauxlivia for two weeks (can anyone confirm the timeline in the “original universe”? – but I would think this is longer than what had happened – and I think the writers intentionally put that line.). So, the incidence in the station did not happen, nor the need for Walternate to send AltBroyles as an exchange for Fauxlivia’s weight. And there’s more… Peter’s illusion is not seen by Olivia and therefore, she most probably took Fauxlivia’s identity fully and longer than intended. How Olivia learned about herself or how Fauxlivia came back to her universe – I got no idea. Presumably, the Olivias swap and the exchange goes smoothly. Olivia could have learned Fauxlivia took her identity later stage.
But my really big question is… what Peter did (or did not do) that prompted Olivia kill her stepdaddy? Was the meeting in the White Tulip field that change everything? I’m really fuzzy about it. What do you think?
Olivia meeting Peter in the tulip field absolutely steered her away from killing her step-father.
For Peter gave her that moment of light in the darkness. From there it led to her confiding in Walter. Who gave the step-father a warning that worked well enough to make it unneeded for Olivia to take drastic measures.
The flip side, of course, is that because of Peter’s moment of light, Olivia inadvertently tipped Walternate to Peter’s fate. And set in motion the events of the past 3 seasons culminating in Peter going into the Machine.
I totally agree with this, and because little Olivia didn’t cross over to Walternate as a child, Walternate didn’t know that Olivia COULD cross over. Maybe she didn’t even have the experiments ‘stepped up’ on her because Walter only did so because he was trying to find a way to get Peter home.
SO Walternate wouldn’t have known she could cross universes, Walter wouldn’t have stepped up experiments on her further to see that she could cross universes (only that she had the talent to see glimmers when she was a very young child and set things on fire.
Therefore Brandonate would never have asked Walternate to have her dissected and killed, and Alt-Broyles would never have had to rescue her because plan A was to send her back in the exchange using the door technology alive. That’s why Alt-Broyles is alive.
She doesn’t even seem to have any Fauxlivia’s memories implanted, she’s not a sharpshooter (as seen when she tried to kill the shapeshifter in Neither Here Nor There)
I believe that there are a myraid of things that have been “altered” due the fact that none of them remember that Peter grew up to be a man. Like Xerophytes, Alt Broyles being “alive” did not shock me. Peter being absent changed things, let’s just accept that as a fact.
Walter definitely indicated that Olivia was only gone two weeks in ep 04.02 and in the Peter concious universe she was gone for six weeks (Broyles says that amount of time in “Entrada”). Most likely in the “no-Peter” universe the switch was more planned with a discreet time frame, say 2 weeks, and an orderly re-switch of Olivias. Thus, no need for the alt-universe to go all machette on alt-Broyles. In fact, alt-Broyles, was probably a willing partner in any planned kidnapping. Also, since two weeks is not a long time, I doubt there was any experimenting on Olivia during her time in the red-verse, which means no need to keep her brain for study.
The main thing that I think is drives everything is that without Peter the emotional drive of love to “save” Peter –Walter keeping Peter in the first place, Walternate’s drive to get his son back, Walter and Olivia going to the red verse in the first place to end season 2 — is absent. Thus, without all this emotional turmoil (i.e. love), the “war” between the universes is, de facto, more “business like.” That is the way I am thinking of it anyway…
What I can’t wait to be revealed is that if everything in the last three seasons “did happen” as the show runners have stated how in the world is this going to come together. I know that the “reintegration” of Peter will be mind-blowing, I just hope that they get to it sooner rather than later.
Wow.
You did explain the events clearer than me. I totally forgot about what pushed Walter and the Cortexiphan team to go over to the other side.
Perhaps something else like an attempt to save William Bell? I think that is a good reason to cross over?
Of all things in Nature I cannot thing of one which there is exactly just TWO of. Either (on very few cases) there is just ONE or there is an INFINITE number of. So, why would there be just two Universes?? Much more rational, if there is more than one, would be INFINITE universes!
So, when Peter tried to connect our universe with the alt-verse that was destroyed by ours with the machine, he ended up connecting us (by interference of Observers, I suppose) with another one on which he never was saved from that childhood illness by our Walter.
Hmm, I wonder if the circumstances to bastard step dad dying are the same as how he got hurt in in the original blueverse. In the original universe, Olivia shot her father using his own gun to stop him from beating up on her mother. It could be surmised that Peter gave her the courage to stand up to him. It could be possible that she let her feeling bottle up and she finally broke and killed him later.
In any time-travel movie or show, we inevitably hear the line about how stepping on a butterfly can lead to everything changing. The Observers didn’t just stepped on a butterfly, they are attempting to erase an entire person. While it might be hard to connect Peter to all of the changes we have seen so far, I am comfortable in assuming that these changes occurred because he did not grow to be a man. I do like all of the explanations above as to why Peter’s disappearance led to Alter-Broyles still being alive and to Olivia killing her stepfather. I can’t wait to see what other changes have occurred.
I believe because Peter never existed, Olivia never learned love, compassion, forgiveness…and just like the last episode she went killer.
I know this sounds terrible, but I very much enjoyed the moment where Olivia says I killed him,…and Fauxlivia’s reaction is a face of, “I guess we shouldn’t tease Olivia so much”.