In this episode of The Fringe Podcast, we break down our thoughts on Fringe Season 3. We give a synopsis of each episode, discuss our high and low points of the season, throw out some theories for Fringe Season 4, and discuss some still unanswered questions. We also take a few feedback questions.
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Re: Peter never existing
I know a lot of people are talking about all the events that could not have happened if Peter never existed. But I think we need to go back to the pilot episode. No Peter means that Walter is still in St. Claire’s; he was never released.
Not necessarily, John. Walter went mad partially because of his inner turmoil surrounding his kidnapping (and cover up) of Peter. I believe another reason is due to the death of the lab assistant in the lab fire. Who knows, maybe the fire was caused because he had already gone mad. If he never took Peter, he may not have ever gone mad. If he never went mad, then he never went to St. Claire’s. One thing is certain-it will be very interesting to see if they cover this issue and if they do, what the story will be.
Fantastic to hear you two again! I’m as much looking forward to listening to the podcast again as I am to the new season of Fringe itself.
Re: Peter never existing:
Time travel (because essentially, this plot has similar effects) is very tricky. So many things would not have happened if Peter hadn’t existed – Walter was (correct me if I’m wrong) always on the ambitious side… in the Red ‘verse, Peter’s kidnapping perhaps pushed him over the edge. If Peter never existed, where would his ambitions have taken him? If, perhaps, Walter never had a son, might he have become bitter because of that?
What about all the people Peter influenced? One could go on and on. I can’t wait to see how they bring him back, because I’m sure he will be.
Grace here again. Wow! I seriously never actually expected to get on the podcast. I have a couple of questions. What time does the live show start and how do I get to the chat room? I haven’t really been looking too hard, but I still can’t find it. Any help would be much appreciated.
Cathy, just click on “Live Show” beneath the Fringe Podcast header at the top of the page it will direct you there. Darrell and Clint will there Sunday afternoon at 4:00 pm eastern time and of course you can join the live chat the same way Friday night during the Fringe episode. 9:00 pm Eastern time.
Thank you very much!
Also, where is the live show and where can I find it?
Re: dramatic vs scientific theories about what happened. First & foremost you have to look at what could logically would fit in. 2nd what could be exploited dramatically 3rd quasi-scientific smoke & mirrors that could be used to explain the magic.
In regards to Peter having existed as a child, I personally accepted the statement “he never existed” literally. The Observers, as dramatic fact, are portrayed as extremely literal. That September may have not been as literal in this statement is a bit out of character. And that statement was obviously put in there for dramatic effect — to freak the viewers out. And that is what it did.
I am not sure that there is more dramatic gold if Peter existed as a child than not. But I will accept that there is, especially now that one Observer has stated: “They can never know the boy lived to be a man.”
I have now change my theories to:
Both Peters died as children. Red Peter’s death was the indirect result of September interrupting Walternate. Red Peter died in the blue lake Reiden while Walter was bringing him over to cure him.
The Observers took action to restore balance by diverting the time stream for a while (when September dove in & saved the boy). The Observers do such time stream diversions when fixing one of their mistakes in line would break the future even more.
Now that the bridge has been created there is no longer a big enough reason for the time stream to be diverted. And the diversion has been lifted. Peter now was not saved by September from drowning.
Besides the bridge staying in existence, echos of the diversion time stream are in the subconscious minds of those who knew Peter. Olivia’s loneliness is a prime example.