Episode 0237-”White Tulip”

Apr 19, 2010 | 5 comments

In this episode we discuss the Fringe episode, “White Tulip.” We discuss the challenges of covering a difficult subject like time travel and we give our grade on how well the folks at Fringe did with it. We also discuss the growth Walter has shown in the area of his faith and we break down the episode from a storytelling and artistic point of view.

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  1. IHardy

    Listening to podcast and had to post my thoughts before I forget…. my apologies if this has been covered already (most certainly has) or wastes space. After listening to you two talking about time travel cleared something up for me – Perhaps the whole point of this episode is to establish a “change of direction” of Walter’s faith. One of the reasons why I didn’t care so much for this episode was because of it’s return to religion, and I just couldn’t see what the point of that was. (well I still don’t, overall, but anyhoo) My thesis: Up to now, Walter has a chip on his shoulder against his god because of his situation with Peter. This whole episode with the Time Travel character is perhaps to explain a change of face Walter will have with his god and probably a slightly different outlook on things. He won’t ever know where the Rose came from because essentially he never met Mr Time Travel. Thoughts?

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  2. Inter-dimensional Dave

    IHardy – I’m really sorry you didn’t like this episode. It was one of my favorites for the season. Remember in the episode “Peter” when Walter blustered there was “only room for one God here and that’s me” (I’m paraphrasing here.) and it shook his assistant Carla to her core? Walter, through his science, was pushing the boundries of morality much of which is established through Judeo-Christian theology. Or more simply put, religion. Science and religion have a long and antagonistic relationship. So when Walter pushed against the boundries of that value system and they pushed back. Well, perhaps it is no wonder he saw the hand of God. Either way, the dichotomy between science and religion is fertile ground for the writers. (Yes it is ok to call me Dave or as my sister emails me now, IDD.)

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  3. IHardy

    Nice to read your point of view, Dave (IDD – that’s cool, better than jedi!) And from the little I’ve read in history (I read more food history) what you say about the science/religion relationship is absolutely right. And I hadn’t thought about the firtile ground for the writers – I mean it’s been done a billion times before, but the same side always wins and that’s what I’m afraid of here. With all due and kind respect of course. Do you think if they explore this “forbidden area”, they will really delve into it? This is not the reason I got into Fringe, but if approached in true Fringe fashion, maybe they can pull it off. What do you think? In a way, I almost rather they didn’t……

    Oh, and I didn’t hate the episode at all, it was just too many frustrating things about it. Like seeing small parts of a big picture but you don’t know what the picture looks like….. 🙂

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  4. Phillip Molly Malone

    Trying to catch up (skipping the Feedback podcasts at the moment so sorry if it has been touched). Listening to this one and the talk of the truck at the end being driven by a “corrector” I am not sure I agree with this. From what I can remember, the CBGs use the Correctors to correct their mistakes not just mistakes of other things.

    JMTC
    Molly

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  5. Inter-dimensional Dave

    IHardy – Just for clarifications sake when you you refer to “forbidden area” do you mean the whole religion/science argument? Did you ever watch the X-Files? Poor Dana Scully eternally struggled with her pragmatic science versus her faith.

    Sorry for the late response. Busy!

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